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If an item is sold and the listing member deleted the price (which is their prerogative) and you want to know what the price was, do NOT post in the thread…send the member a PM.

Those who continually stomp or hijack other member's ads will face temporary, and even permanent suspension of their forum privileges.


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You may have up to two lines stating you are looking or searching for a particular rifle/weapon and serial number.
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- Lastly, don't forget the <b>Buyer/Seller Feedback section</b>

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  • What matches to participate in.

    Last year I purchased my first M1 Garand, it is a special grade originally built in June of 1942. I would like to shoot in some matches for fun, I am not interested in becoming a hard core competitor, I would like to just shoot some matches. I do not plan to have a great deal of gear, nothing fancy or costly. I will mainly be shooting at T'dega since it is only 40 miles from home.

    So,,,what matches are set up towards minimal gear and new to competition shooters?

    Thanks
    Eric

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  • #2
    Originally posted by SharpShooter82 View Post
    Last year I purchased my first M1 Garand, it is a special grade originally built in June of 1942. I would like to shoot in some matches for fun, I am not interested in becoming a hard core competitor, I would like to just shoot some matches. I do not plan to have a great deal of gear, nothing fancy or costly. I will mainly be shooting at T'dega since it is only 40 miles from home.

    So,,,what matches are set up towards minimal gear and new to competition shooters?

    Thanks
    Eric

    Sent from my LGL84VL using Tapatalk
    All/any CMP Games events. Shot at 200 yards only. But being that close to Talladega you might just try a regular high power match too once you get more comfortable. Luckily at Talladega, with the electronic targets, you can pretty much forget the need for a scope. Pretty much useless at 200 yards with a .30 cal. Not even that critical at 600 if your just having fun and the wind isn't blowing 6 MOA to the left.

    Just need/really helps to have a mat and jacket because the concrete is not comfy to lay on. Parking is close enough to just walk to the range with one gun and gear.
    Master of Wood and Steel

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    • #3
      Originally posted by USriflecal30 View Post
      All/any CMP Games events. Shot at 200 yards only. But being that close to Talladega you might just try a regular high power match too once you get more comfortable. Luckily at Talladega, with the electronic targets, you can pretty much forget the need for a scope. Pretty much useless at 200 yards with a .30 cal. Not even that critical at 600 if your just having fun and the wind isn't blowing 6 MOA to the left.



      Just need/really helps to have a mat and jacket because the concrete is not comfy to lay on. Parking is close enough to just walk to the range with one gun and gear.
      That sounds good. I do plan to go there to practice once I narrow down my load to shoot. The furthest I have ever shot is 300 meters when I was in basic back in the 80's, looking forward to 600.

      I do have a mat and a cheap scope but with the electronic scoring I wont need the scope.

      I know I will need to practice because I have been shooting from a bench almost exclusively.

      Thanks for the input,
      Eric

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      • #4
        Once you check-in you can use one of the golf carts to haul your gear down to the firing line. Check in, grab a golf cart, go to your vehicle and load up, drive down to the firing line and unload, return the golf cart. Nobody will mess with your gear until you get back. RO's are helpful, don't hesitate to ask for help. I shoot at TMP a lot.

        Keith
        I can shoot a one hole/one shot group at any distance....."If I do my part"
        Keith Schachle
        Distinguished Rifleman Badge #2287
        Presidents Hundred (Top 20 Shootoff)
        NRA XTC Service Rifle- High Master
        NRA Midrange - High Master
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        CMP Master Instructor
        Almost Perfect Attendance in the 3rd grade

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        • #5
          Here are a few other things that make shooting the M1 in GSM matches convenient:

          1. 1903 type sling
          2 SLED (for single loading cartridges in the slow fire stages)
          3. 2 and 8 round clip
          4. Shooting glove

          You will need to wear eye protection, and if you have trouble seeing the front sight, a reduced size rear sight aperture is a big help, as is corrective lenses to focus on the front sight.

          And, as others have said, a mat is pretty much a necessity for prone shooting on the concrete. A shooting coat is desirable too to give you some elbow and shoulder padding.

          That’s about it...and have fun!

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          • #6
            I have a SLED, 2 2rnd,5rnd (never know,,,might want to hunt with the M1) and of course many 8rnd clips. I have a leather glove that I can cut the fingers out of too.

            I guess the most expencive items, other than the rifle, are the jacket and scope/mount. Will have to see if I really need them for my shooting style.

            Eric



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            • #7
              If your shooting the M1 at the TMP, you will not need a spotting scope, especially not for shooting at 200 in the JCG matches.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by USriflecal30 View Post
                Not even that critical at 600 if your just having fun and the wind isn't blowing 6 MOA to the left.

                It's not the amount of wind, but the switches.
                Service Rifle: 1884-2015 RIP.
                Service Pistol: 1903-2014

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                • #9
                  Sign up for the D-Day match at the TMP, registration is open. You can download the CMP Games matches rule book and get familiar with the course of fire and the rules. It’s a lot of fun. But I caution you, it can become addictive....

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                  • #10
                    And, there is a GSMM on 29 May at the TMP, that would be good practice for the D-Day match.

                    Let’s get out here! It’s not the usual $50, it is $35.00 for the May GSMM (one entry).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by britrifles View Post
                      Sign up for the D-Day match at the TMP, registration is open. You can download the CMP Games matches rule book and get familiar with the course of fire and the rules. It’s a lot of fun. But I caution you, it can become addictive....
                      Not so sure I am ready for a match. I have less than a hundred rounds thru the M1, and just recently got some brass and powder to load more.

                      I think the addiction part is what concerns my fiancee,,,

                      Eric

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                      • #12
                        Hey Eric,
                        I’m in the same boat as you. I purchased a CMP M1 field special to shoot in the matches a few yrs back and barely started as I was hesitant of the cost involved. That being said; for the matches; all I bring is my rifle/web sling/enough ammo for the match/cheap spotting scope/and a mat to lay on. I like keeping everything as simple as I can while it being fun because once it not fun; then what the point of doing it in the first place?
                        On a side note; pretty much every competitor there are super friendly and willing to let me try their stuff. I swore I asked a ton of questions and never did they make me feel like I was bothering them. Good luck on your shoots and I hope it’s something you will enjoy and do for a long time

                        Chris

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Chrisj831 View Post
                          Hey Eric,
                          I’m in the same boat as you. I purchased a CMP M1 field special to shoot in the matches a few yrs back and barely started as I was hesitant of the cost involved. That being said; for the matches; all I bring is my rifle/web sling/enough ammo for the match/cheap spotting scope/and a mat to lay on. I like keeping everything as simple as I can while it being fun because once it not fun; then what the point of doing it in the first place?
                          On a side note; pretty much every competitor there are super friendly and willing to let me try their stuff. I swore I asked a ton of questions and never did they make me feel like I was bothering them. Good luck on your shoots and I hope it’s something you will enjoy and do for a long time

                          Chris
                          Hello Chris,
                          I got behind last year by concentrating on my target .308 bolt gun. So with all that was happening last year by the time I started getting supplies together to load .30-06 it was difficult to find brass and powder. I now have the ammo supplies and I am loading now, found a decent powder charge and will be firing a few clips to confirm its consistency. Then I plan to go to the TMP and get the sights zeroed and then work out my specific range dope out to 600 yards.

                          I plan to get out at least one day to the D-Day matches in June. Just to look around, ask questions, and take it all in.

                          I recently got a WW2 cartridge belt, suspenders, canteen, and scabbard. Hopefully I will have a decent uniform and boots by next year. My plan is shoot in combat gear for the full effect. I have done Civil War reenacting and Cowboy shootouts, I find it very fulfilling to shoot firearms while in period clothes, it just completes the experience.

                          Eric

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                          • #14
                            Hey Eric,
                            Right on; props to you and the others that dress up in the period gear. I really enjoy the games matches which are all shot on the 200yd line. I’ll tell you one thing; once I started to participate; it made me want to get other rifles to participate in the other matches the CMP has. Observing is a great way to see everything in action to see if it’s something you might enjoy but once you get started....you will be asking yourself how come you didn’t start earlier. Good luck Eric and most importantly; have fun.

                            Chris

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                            • #15
                              To the OP:
                              you’re going to have a lot of fun!
                              Lots of good advice already given, I’ll chime in with a few.

                              Use your old army issue field jacket with liner, as a shooting jacket. That will help a lot.
                              The US military foam sleeping pad is actually an excellent shooting mat! They can usually be purchased at a local gun show for $10. You can add skateboard tape, if you wish, where your elbows go.

                              People are allowed to coach each other during GSM matches, and your score/verifier will no doubt help you with come ups or advice.

                              Let us know how it goes.
                              Camp Perry is not "a place for experts". It's a place to help YOU become an expert.
                              "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun... Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion of your walks." Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1785.
                              Read "War is a Racket" by MG Smedly Butler, USMC. He knew war and was awarded the Medal of Honor twice. You can find it online.

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